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Post by Remnant Believer on Sept 15, 2019 10:46:16 GMT
[smear:#a20a05]Stranger Danger! Do You Hear The Lord Jesus Christ's Voice or the Voices of Strangers?[/smear:#180876:1]Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. ... Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. ... Mat 24:23-24 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before. Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
2Pe 2:1-2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Co 11:1-3 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. ... 2Co 11:12-15 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2Co 11:16 I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.
2Co 6:14-16 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2Co 6:17-18 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Mat 7:15-16 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17-18 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18-20 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Mat 7:24-25 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. Mat 7:26-27 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Rev 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Rev 2:28 And I will give him the morning star. Rev 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. Joh 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. Joh 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. Joh 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Joh 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. Joh 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. Joh 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. Joh 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Listen closely as Alberto Rivera warned about Walter Martin being a deceiver, and take note how that Ravi Zacharias worked closely with Walter Martin Ministries; These two "hirelings" paved the way for the unlearned and unstable in the Churches to embrace the deadly deceptive false prophets of both the Seventh Day Adventists and now Mormons. As you listen closely to Ravi Zacharias, as he speaks lies in hypocrisy, consider both 1Timothy 4:1-2, 1Corinthians 1-2, and 2Timothy 4:1-5 .... Also take note how both Walter Martin and Ravi Zacharias both used the expression of having "taken a lot of heat" for their entering into the domains of the False Prophets .... Review each of the referenced passages above to understand that the word "heat" is nothing more than slicky terminology as they both rejected sound Biblical rebuke and correction, as they unrepentantly embraced Satan's ministers, as they have ran greedily after the wages of Balaam along with the gainsaying of Korah to deceive the unstable and unlearned in accepting these False Prophets, and later, we will also add even further evidence per the Occult Agenda Against The Holy Bible - KJB 1611 of which will prove beyond any doubt that the Modern Translations, which are nothing more than Gnostic re-writes of the Bible, are used to bring in damnable heresies, such as the denial of the bodily ressurection of The Lord Jesus, His physical return, as well as the denial of the Biblical Doctrine of Hell, etc., to demonstrate how "damnable heresies" are being brought into the Churches (deep things of Satan) that originate with the False Prophet Groups, for none other purpose than the Satanic takeover of many Churches, hence the great falling away from the faith per 2Thessalonians 2, 2Peter 2-3, and Jude 1 as they work to blend religions, as these are indeed seducing spirits waxing worse and worse per 2Timothy 3 !!
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True to Pastor Charles Lawson's sermon per "Gnostics in Sheepskins" you will indeed discover the proof of what he had declared with warning within several "Christian" Forums. Furthermore, please be aware that as you check into BaptistBoard, you will disover "aterisktom" that is a wolf in sheepskin as he is diguised as a Baptist preaching and teaching the antichrist Seventh Day Adventist/Jehovah's Witness "another jesus" per 2Corinthians 11 even with the antichrist denial of the bodily ressurection while bashing the King James Bible in favor of the Gnostic Perversions of the Bible! Note that this man, asterisktom, is obviously not the only one, as there are others on other Forums, even also disguised as "AnaBaptist" doing the very same thing, including the denial of the Biblical doctrine of hell. These actions are the very things that Apostle Peter warned us about in 2Peter 2-3 per the false teachers among us that sport themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with us, as well as the parallel warning given to us in Jude (highlighting Jude 1:4) as they work to turn grace into lasciviousness, as they propagate the blending of religions including the embracement of Jezebel's false prophets, as had been done by Walter Martin concerning the Seventh Day Adventists, and Ravi Zacharias who has worked for Walter Martin Ministries, as he made the move to embrace the Mormons, and so forth. This is a link to Baptist Board: www.baptistboard.com/threads/christs-return-spiritual-or-physical.111114/page-2
While the heretics have been allowed to propagate doctrines of devils such as the case with "asterisktom" on these so-called "Christian" Forums for approx 15 to 20 years give or take; discerning Christians have been banned. Bookmark this Forum and stay tuned to learn more about these issues. Other examples with links will be edited into this post as time permits. God bless each and everyone one of you that are His! KEEP LOOKING UP!! OUR REDEMPTION IS TRUELY DRAWING NIGH!!
| [smear:#e63b19]The Infiltration[/smear:#721c06:1] - Alberto Rivera Published on Jun 8, 2013
[smear:#8d0392]Are Seventh-day Adventists true Christians or part of the cults?[/smear:#c23606:1] [smear:#9b05a4]The John Ankerberg Show[/smear:#701907:1] Published on Jun 6, 2009 This clip is from our series "Interview with Dr. Walter Martin on Cults". This clip answers the question: What about Ellen G. White, one of the leaders of the Seventh-day Adventists, was she guilty of plagiarism in her writings? Did she utter false prophecies? Are the Seventh-day Adventists part of the cults? What makes the difference?
[smear:#e62b19]Seventh-day Adventism[/smear:#681102:1] [smear:#e6194e]-[/smear:#19e637:1] [smear:#494683]Walter Martin vs William Johnsson[/smear:#a508bd:1] [smear:#9e1806](1 of 5)[/smear:#a419e6:1] [smear:#066e12]キリストは主である[/smear:#21299c:1] Published on Jun 8, 2015 [smear:#9b05a4]The John Ankerberg Show[/smear:#701907:1]
Dr. William Johnsson and Dr. Walter Martin examine why so many evangelical men and women have been asked to leave Adventism and whether or not the writings of Ellen G. White should be considered to be of equal authority as the Scriptures. (Video posted with permission of John Ankerberg - the 5 parts can be purchased in one set through jashow.org).
[smear:#e62b19]Seventh-day Adventism[/smear:#681102:1] [smear:#e6194e]-[/smear:#19e637:1] [smear:#494683]Walter Martin vs William Johnsson[/smear:#a508bd:1] [smear:#9e1806](2 of 5)[/smear:#a419e6:1] [smear:#066e12]キリストは主である[/smear:#21299c:1] Published on Jun 8, 2015
[smear:#e62b19]Seventh-day Adventism[/smear:#681102:1] [smear:#e6194e]-[/smear:#19e637:1] [smear:#494683]Walter Martin vs William Johnsson[/smear:#a508bd:1] [smear:#9e1806](3 of 5)[/smear:#a419e6:1] [smear:#066e12]キリストは主である[/smear:#21299c:1] Published on Jun 8, 2015
[smear:#e62b19]Seventh-day Adventism[/smear:#681102:1] [smear:#e6194e]-[/smear:#19e637:1] [smear:#494683]Walter Martin vs William Johnsson[/smear:#a508bd:1] [smear:#9e1806](4 of 5)[/smear:#a419e6:1] [smear:#066e12]キリストは主である[/smear:#21299c:1] Published on Jun 8, 2015
[smear:#e62b19]Seventh-day Adventism[/smear:#681102:1] [smear:#e6194e]-[/smear:#19e637:1] [smear:#494683]Walter Martin vs William Johnsson[/smear:#a508bd:1] [smear:#9e1806](5 of 5)[/smear:#a419e6:1] [smear:#066e12]キリストは主である[/smear:#21299c:1] Published on Jun 8, 2015
[smear:#b41708]Ravi Zacharias at the Mormon Tabernacle[/smear:#7d280f:1] calvarysgmedia Published on Jan 22, 2014
[smear:#80067a]Mormon Teaching Ravi Zacharias (Must See)[/smear:#a02901:1] Published on Dec 16, 2012
Mormon Teaching Ravi Zacharias
Baal bending President of Calvin University:
[smear:#c6220a]An Evangelical Apology to Mormons[/smear:#872007:1] Calvin University Published on Feb 21, 2013
[smear:#e63019]Ravi Zacharias on Mormonism[/smear:#711306:1] Liberty Howl - wolfpjw Published on Apr 10, 2013
www.rzim.org/
Are Mormons Believers? Ravi Zacharias responds
[smear:#c81e08]Ravi Zacharias At The Mormon Tabernacle - January 30, 2018[/smear:#700a05:1] Augustus Published on Jan 30, 2018
[smear:#e64119]Is Roman Catholicism a cult?[/smear:#761906:1] [smear:#0a65cd]- Ravi Zacharias at Texas A&M's Veritas Forum[/smear:#052a54:1] Fiat Lux Published on Mar 20, 2014
Dr. Ravi Zacharias answers the question, "Is Roman Catholicism another example of how unity does not equal uniformity within the Christian community or is it at its core a derivative of true Christianity?" at Texas A&M's Veritas Forum on March 19, 2014.
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Post by Remnant Believer on Oct 22, 2019 22:07:11 GMT
Sadley, the leaven of Walter Martin's deception has spread into multitudes of Churches, not withstanding, even among the seemingly best and brightest of Christians, such as Jan Markell. It is always in the Spirit of love, the Spirit of meekness, and Spirit of Truth, that we endeavor to reach out to everyone in the Churches with encouragement to repent! Please help by contacting Jan Markell of Olive Tree View Ministries to help in this effort!
Mailing Address Olive Tree Ministries P.O. Box 1452 Maple Grove, MN, 55311
Telephone Number (763) 559-4444
Website: www.olivetreeviews.org/
The following is an audio from a broadcast from Olive Tree View Ministries featuring Jan Markell and Jill Martin Rische .... as you closely listen, discerning the leaven, as we know that a False Prophet is ALWAYS a False Prophet per The Lord Jesus Christ's holy words in Matthew 7:13-27 ... another link will be posted below per Ben Carson and what he really believes. "When a Prophet is a False Prophet January 2, 2016
"Because Seventh Day Adventism is in the news, our hosts consider that belief system and ask if it is a cult? Ellen G. White, their leader, is clearly a false prophet. Does that mean that we shouldn’t vote for Dr. Ben Carson—who is an honorable and righteous man? And what’s wrong with annhilationism or the false doctrine that hell is not eternal? This is a part of Seventh Day Adventist theology. Jan Markell, Eric Barger, and cult expert Jill Martin Rische consider these issues. They also look further into the coming censorship of all Christians and conservatives. Yet Islam must be glorified and protected.
www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/listen/when-a-prophet-is-a-false-prophet-508641.html " More about Ben Carson and his beliefs: Questions and Answers on Adventism
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Post by Remnant Believer on Oct 23, 2019 0:17:26 GMT
Reserved Space for News Article to be posted soon per the embracement of false prophet, including SDA, Mormon, & JWs
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Post by Remnant Believer on Oct 23, 2019 1:18:18 GMT
| [smear:#e63019]Dennis Prager on Evangelicals & Mormons[/smear:#611809:1] [smear:#df19e6]andyottito1[/smear:#967408:1] Published on Jan 17, 2012 [smear:#b406ba]"Dennis gives clarity on the subject of the Evangelicals views of Mormons"[/smear:#4b015c:1]
Highlighting a comment made by a Mormon on the above channel of Dennis Prager video:
[smear:#ca19e6]Glen M. Danielsen[/smear:#500446:1] "As a Latter-day Saint, I agree with brother Dennis. I do not wish to be described as a "Christian." It only serves to confuse; it implies that we in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints crave acceptance into the Evangelical culture, and nothing could be further from the truth. I am not a Christian (Evangelical). I am a Latter-day Saint. We don't have a fourth century view from the pew, a Nicene dream! God bless you though, Evangelical minstrels !"
[smear:#e63019]Dennis Prager and Caller on Mormonism, Values, Theology and Mitt Romney[/smear:#611809:1] [smear:#df19e6]andyottito1[/smear:#967408:1] Published on Jan 9, 2012 [smear:#b406ba]"Dennis Prager at his best, as usual."[/smear:#4b015c:1]
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Post by Remnant Believer on Oct 23, 2019 17:06:43 GMT
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 17:57:10 GMT
False Prophecies of Seventh Day Adventists' Ellen G. White (1827-1915), False Prophetess, & Plagiarist PRESUMPTION "God was speaking through clay. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision - the precious rays of light shining from the throne." VISIONS OF MRS. E. G. WHITE TESTIMONY 31 p. 63 "When I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You have thereby insulted the Spirit of God." E. G. WHITE TESTIMONIES Vol 5 p. 661 "Those who are reproved by the Spirit of God should not rise up against the humble instrument. It is God, and not an erring mortal, who has spoken to save them from ruin." TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH Vol 3 p. 257 "Seventh-day Adventists hold that Ellen G. White performed the work of a true prophet during the seventy years of her public ministry. As Samuel was a prophet, as Jeremiah was a prophet, as John the Baptist, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today." THE ADVENT REVIEW & HERALD 10/4/1928 "A week after her first happy vision Ellen received a second vision in which God called her formally to work for Him as a prophet. " MOVING OUT Unit 4 p. 115
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 17:57:52 GMT
PROPHECIES
"I have seen that the 1843 chart (Wm. Miller's) was directed by the hand of the Lord and that it should not be altered, that the figures were as he wanted them." EARLY WRITINGS p. 64 edition 1882
(First Vision - 12/1844)
"It was just as impossible for them (those that gave up their faith in the 1844 movement) to get on the path again and go to the city, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another," (Foregoing now deleted) "until we heard the voice of God like many waters, WHICH GAVE US THE DAY AND HOUR OF JESUS' COMING. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spake the time, he poured on us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God as Moses' did when he came down from Mount Sinai." A WORD TO THE LITTLE FLOCK (1847 edition) p. 14
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 17:58:37 GMT
ELLEN FORGETS HOUR PROCLAIMED
"I have not the slightest knowledge as to the time spoken by the voice of God. I heard the hour proclaimed, but had no remembrance of that hour after I came out of vision." SELECTED MESSAGES 1 p. 298 (1889)
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 17:59:27 GMT
ELLEN LOST HER VISIONS (False Prophesies For Armageddon - The End of the World) "In our frequent change of location in the earlier history of the publishing work, and I have crossed the plains no less than 17 times - I lost all trace of the first published works." ... "And here I pause to state that any of our people having in their possession a copy of any or all of my first views, as published prior to 1851, will do me a great favor if they will send them to me without delay." SELECTED MESSAGES 1 p. 60 "It is well known that many were expecting the Lord to come at the 7th month, 1845. That Christ would then come we firmly believed. A few days before the time passed, I was at Fairhaven, and Dartsmouth, Mass, with a message on this point of time. At this time, Ellen was with the band at Carver, Mass, where she saw in vision, that we should be disappointed," A WORD TO THE LlTTLE FLOCK p. 22 by James White 1847 E. G. White prophesied the world would end in 1843, 1844, 1845 & 1851 "Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." EARLY WRITINGS p. 57 "For a time after the disappointment in 1844, I did hold, in common with the advent body, that the door of mercy was then forever closed to the world ... I was shown in vision, and I still believe, that there was a shut door in 1844." SELECTED MESSAGES 1 p. 63 "I saw the state of the different churches since the second angel proclaimed their fall. (In 1844) They have been growing more and more corrupt .. . Satan has taken full possession of the churches as a body... Their professions, their prayers and their exhortations are an abomination in the sight of GOD." SPIRITUAL GIFTS Vol 1-p. 189.
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 18:00:12 GMT
False Doctrines Of Seventh Day Adventists JESUS IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL - 'ANOTHER JESUS' 2Corinthians 11:4 Also see Matthew 7:13-27 - Matthew 24 - 1John 4:1-5 - Hebrews 1-2 "THE LORD has shown me that Satan was once an honored angel In heaven, next to JESUS CHRIST." (E. G. White's Vision) SPIRITUAL GIFTS Vol. 1 p. 17 "Michael, or Christ, with the angels that buried Moses, came down from heaven, after he had remained in the grave a short time, and resurrected him, and took him to heaven." SPIRITUAL GIFTS Vol 4a p. 58 "and before the contest closed, Christ Himself came to Gabriel's aid.' The prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days,' Gabriel declares; 'but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.' " Daniel 10:13 PROPHETS & KINGS p. 572 "The words of the angel, 'I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God,' show that he holds a position of high honor in the heavenly courts. When he came with a message to Daniel, he said, 'There is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael (Christ) your Prince.' " Daniel 10:21 THE DESIRE OF AGES p. 99 (65) "Michael, or Christ, with the angels that buried Moses, came down from heaven, after he had remained in the grave a short time, and resurrected him and took him to heaven....Satan claimed the body of Moses, because of his one transgression; but Christ meekly referred him to His Father, saying,' The Lord rebuke thee.' " Jude 9 THE STORY OF REDEMPTION p. 173
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Post by Remnant Believer on Feb 20, 2020 18:00:59 GMT
JAMES WHITE'S STATEMENTS ON THE TRINITY
"Spiritualizers have - disposed of or denied the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ ... using the old unscriptural Trinitarian creed, viz., that Jesus Christ is the eternal God, though they have not one passage to support it, while we have plain scripture testimony in abundance that he is the Son of the eternal God." (THE DAY-STAR, 1/21/1846, p. 1) (formerly WESTERN MIDNIGHT CRY)
"To assert that the sayings of the Son and his apostles are the commandments of the Father, is as wide from the truth as the old Trinitarian absurdity that Jesus Christ is the very and Eternal God." (REVIEW & HERALD 8/5/1852, p. 52.)
"The S. D. Adventists hold the divinity of Christ so nearly with the Trinitarian, that we apprehend no trial here..." (R & H 10/12/1876 p. 116) James White .
(James White died 1881 seven years before the Trinity confrontations at the 1888 Minneapolis meeting where J. H. Waggoner & A. T. Jones militantly pressed Arian doctrines against the deity of Christ.)
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SOUL SLEEP
"In the year 1844 I accepted the doctrine we now hold, concerning the non immortality of the souI, as may be seen by reference to LIFE SKETCHES " p. 170, 171 (1880 edition)."
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HYPNOSIS
"Ellen White early in her experience was cautioned regarding the perils of hypnosis, and in later years, on a number of occasions, she received instruction regarding it." EARLY WRITINGS p. 298
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WHY HER PROPHECY FAILED
"Thus the work was hindered, and the world was left in darkness. Had the whole Adventist body united upon the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, how widely different would have been our history." SELECTED MESSAGES, Book 1, p. 299
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SLAVERY WILL NOT BE DESTROYED BY CIVIL WAR
"The system of slavery, which ruined our nation is left to live and stir up another rebellion." TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH p. 255
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The Ellen G. White Web Site Bringing you the latest research on Ellen White
Many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1
"These books...will bear the test of investigation"
For excellent documentation re the SDA Church Visit this web.
www.ellenwhite.org/ Amalgamation
A Denominational Embarrassment
Many Adventists agree that these statements are the most shocking ever penned by Ellen White: - But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere. Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 64
Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men. Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 75
A Summary of Mrs. White's main points about Amalgamation - 1.It was "a sin" serious enough to require "the destruction" of the human race.
2.It was a vile, "base crime". 3.This vile sin "defaced the image of God." 4.It occurred both before and after "the flood." 5.Its effects can be seen "in certain races of men." AnalysisWhat was she talking about?There is no doubt that Ellen White understood her own statements to be describing the sexual union between man and beast. This was a myth that apparently circulated among the uneducated in the 19th century. The myth has no scientific basis. Science has long ago proven that it is impossible for humans and animals to produce offspring. This leads to the question: If she did not receive the amalgamation statement from God, where did she get it? One likely source is the book of Jasher. Many of Mrs. White's statements about the pre-flood era appear astonishingly similar to statements in the book of Jasher, a fictional account of earth's early history published in 1840. In that book we find that the pre-flood humans... ... taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other...(Jasher 4:18) Which race is a product of amalgamation?Mrs. White said the results of amalgamation could be seen "in certain races of men." We have been waiting 140 years for Adventist officials to tell us which human race is the result of amalgamation of man and beast. Stinging criticism of Ellen White in the 1860's forced church leaders to attempt to defend their prophet. In 1868, four years after the amalgamation statements first appeared in print, Adventist leader Uriah Smith (who at that time still professed belief in Ellen White as a prophet) published his defense of Ellen White. In that book he conjectured that the union of man with beast had created races such as the " wild Bushmen of Africa". (See The Visions of Mrs. E.G. White, p. 103. By the way, you will not find this book in any SDA bookstores today!) Smith's views reflect the popular notion of the day that crosses between men and animals created a nebulous zone of half-man, half-beasts, including such creatures as gorillas, chimpanzees, wild bushmen of Africa, and Hottentots. James White " carefully" reviewed Smith's book prior to its publication, and then recommended it in glowing terms to the readers of the church's official magazine, the Review and Herald: - The Association has just published a pamphlet entitled, "The Visions of Mrs. E.G. White, A Manifestation of Spiritual Gifts According to the Scriptures." It is written by the editor of the Review. While carefully reading the manuscript, I felt grateful to God that our people could have this able defense of those views they so much love and prize, which others despise and oppose. (Review, Aug. 15, 1868)
Smith did not publish this book without careful review from the prophet's husband, James White. It is inconceivable that the statements about the Bushmen of Africa passed by James White without notice. His endorsement of the book indicates his approval of the explanation. In fact, because it established Mrs. White's claims, James and Ellen took 2,000 copies of Smith's book with them to peddle at camp meetings that year! By promoting and selling Smith's book the Whites placed their stamp of approval on his explanation of the amalgamation statement. While Smith may have limited the amalgamation to the Bushmen, some SDA's have gone further. Sadly, as an SDA for 33 years, I know for a fact that behind closed doors in private conversations some white American SDA's believe this "inspired" statement applies to the entire black race. SDA Scholars take Mental Gymnastics to astounding new heightsWhile the "Bushmen of Africa" explanation was good enough for the Whites and Smith, it eventually fell out of favor with SDA leaders. It became increasingly difficult to explain these statements to an increasingly educated and racially tolerant denomination.Despite the controversy, both the critics and supporters of Ellen White agreed that Mrs. White was talking about the union of man with beast. However, by 1947 an Adventist biologist named Dr. Frank Marsh convinced an SDA panel to interpret Mrs. White's statement to mean the interbreeding among species, not interbreeding between man and beast. Dr. Marsh argued convincingly that the union of man and beast is impossible. Despite the fact that James White, Uriah Smith, W.C. White (her son), and D.D. Robinson (her secretary) all indicate that Mrs. White believed her statement to refer to the interbreeding of man with beasts, the mounting scientific evidence made it impossible for Adventists to continue to defend her statement based upon its intended meaning. Thus, they developed a new meaning for the statement, a meaning which was unknown to Ellen White, and a meaning which is extremely difficult to extract from the text of the amalgamation quotes themselves. One recent Adventist scholar, F.D. Nichols, in his defense of Mrs.White, informs us that the word "amalgamation" was used commonly in the 19th century to refer to intermarriage between the black and white races. He also notes that Ellen White used the word "amalgamation" to refer to the intermarriage between those of different faiths. Nichols argues that Mrs. White's statement was referring to amalgamation between "man and "man", namely, the interbreeding between humans of different races or different religions. Intermarriage between the races?This explanation raises more questions than answers: - How could intermarriage between races deface the image of God in man? How could one human (made in the image of God) married to another human (made in the image of God) deface the image of God?
If intermarriage between races is a "sin" and a "base crime", then why is it never described as such in the Bible?
Many Biblical scholars believe Moses' wife Zipporah was a different race. Were the children of Moses an amalgamated species? If so, why did God offer to make the children of Moses into a great nation? Why didn't God destroy them for committing a base crime? Intermarriage between godly and ungodly?This interpretation seems to contradict the context of the statement. Gordon Shigley writes in Spectrum magazine: - It was difficult to read the statements within their context without seeing a series of sins, of which the last sin--the "one sin above another"--was obviously the climax. It was not likely that Ellen White was talking about intermarriage since she already had described that sin in an earlier paragraph. ...it is impossible to make the amalgamation of beast with beast or man with man the one sin greater than idolatry, adultery, polygamy, theft, or murder. (Spectrum, "Amalgamation of Man and Beast: What Did Ellen White Mean?", vol. 12, no. 4, p. 11)
Again, this interpretation raises far more questions than it answers: - Is intermarriage between the godly and ungodly a "sin" or a "base crime?" Interestingly, Mrs. White describes the intermarriage between the sons of Cain and Seth just four pages eariler on page 60 of Spiritual Gifts! She says the intermarriage "displeased God", but she does not call it a base crime! Neither does the Bible! Samson married a Philistine woman over the objections of his parents and the Bible says: ◦But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the Lord... Judges 14:4
If marrying an ungodly woman was a "base crime" worthy of the destruction of the human race, why would the Bible say that Samson's marriage to a Philistine was "of the Lord?"
How could intermarriage between people of different faiths now "be seen" in "certain races of men?" Which races show evidence of intermarriage between believers and unbelievers? White Estate Plays Word Games:What does Amalgamation mean?While the current defenders of Mrs. White at the White Estate cannot seem to provide a definitive explanation as to what Mrs. White was talking about, they assure us on their web site that whatever it was that Mrs. White was talking about, it was not the union between man and beast: - No dictionary has ever used "amalgamation" to describe the cohabitation of man with beast. ... Mrs. White never hinted of subhuman beings or any kind of hybrid animal-human relationship. ... The burden of proof rests on those who affirm that Mrs. White gave a new and alien meaning to the term.
While dictionaries do not explicitly describe amalgamation as the union of man and beast, they certainly allow for that definition. The word "amalgamation" is widely used in the English language to describe a mixture of two different elements. The word is commonly used to describe: - Combining different businesses, groups, organizations.
Combinations of music, art or food. Combinations of different technology and equipment. It has even been used by science fiction buffs to describe the offspring of the union between human and alien beings!
The use of the word is endless. It is used in thousands of ways to describe the combination of any two elements that are different. The word comes from "amalgam" which has two primary meanings: - 1 : an alloy of mercury with another metal that is solid or liquid at room temperature according to the proportion of mercury present and is used especially in making tooth cements
2 : a mixture of different elements (Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1999 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated)
How was the word used in the 1800's? Webster's 1828 dictionary: - Amalgamation - The mixing or blending of different things. (Webster's 1828 Dictionary)
Webster's 1913 dictionary: - A*mal`ga*ma"tion (#), n. [Cf. F. amalgamation.]
The mixing or blending of different elements, races, societies, etc.; also, the result of such combination or blending; a homogeneous union. (Webster's 1913 Dictionary) A "new and alien meaning"?The White Estate claims that we are under a "burden" to prove that Mrs. White was talking about the union of man and beast because that specific definition never appears in a dictionary. They write: - "The burden of proof rests on those who affirm that Mrs. White gave a new and alien meaning to the term."
Is that true? Are we under the burden to prove the word can be used in that manner? Well, let us examine some of Mrs. White's other uses of the word to determine whether or not they appear in the dictionary: - Every noxious herb is of his [Satan's] sowing, and by his ingenious methods of amalgamation he has corrupted the earth with tares. Selected Messages, Vol. 2, p. 288
...by union with the world, the character of God's people becomes tarnished, and through amalgamation with the corrupt, the fine gold becomes dim. Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, August 23, 1892
After reading these quotes the following questions should be posed to the White Estate: - 1.No dictionary specifically describes Satan mixing evil properties into herbs to produce tares as amalgamation. Therefore, is Mrs. White giving a "new and alien meaning to the word" in Selected Messages, Vol. 2, p. 288?
2.No dictionary specifically describes the union of Christians with the world as a process of amalgamation. Therefore, is Mrs. White giving a "new and alien meaning to the word" in the Aug. 23, 1892, issue of the Review?
The truth is that all of Mrs. White's usages of the word amalgamation clearly fit within the dictionary's definition of the word. The word is used in thousands of ways to describe the union of any two things that are different. How could a dictionary possibly list every potential use of the word amalgamation? It would take thousands of pages for just a single word! Just because a particular usage of a word does not appear in the dictionary does not prove that the usage is incorrect! For Mrs. White to use the word to describe the union of man and beast is not "new and alien," nor is it without precedent. In fact, the word is used today by science fiction and UFO followers to describe the union of humans with aliens! "Base Crime" proves White Estate and Nichols wrongMrs. White describes amalgamation as a base crime. Why? What is a base crime? What does the dictionary say? First, let us look at Webster's 1828 dictionary: - Base - Mean; vile; worthless; that is, low in value or estimation; used of things. (Webster's 1828 Dictionary)
Webster's 1913 dictionary: - Base - Morally low. Hence: Low-minded; unworthy; without dignity of sentiment; ignoble; mean; illiberal; menial; as, a base fellow; base motives; base occupations. A cruel act of a base and a cowardish mind.(Webster's 1913 Dictionary)
Here are the synonyms to the word "base" from Webster's 1999 dictionary: - Synonyms: BASE, LOW, VILE mean deserving of contempt because of the absence of higher values.
- BASE stresses the ignoble and may suggest cruelty, treachery, greed, or grossness [base motives].
- LOW may connote crafty cunning, vulgarity, or immorality and regularly implies an outraging of one's sense of decency or propriety [refused to listen to such low talk].
- VILE, the strongest of these words, tends to suggest disgusting depravity or filth .
A base crime is an act of vile immorality. Mrs. White uses the phrase base crime only one other time in her writings. She used the phrase to describe Potiphar's wife's vile adulterous attempt upon the youthful Joseph. ( Signs of the Times, Jan. 8, 1880) If we are to believe the White Estate and Nichols that the amalgamation was "human with human, and beast with beast," then how could these relationships be described as base crimes? Since when are sexual relations between married human partners base crimes? Doesn't God honor marriage, whether or not both partners are of the same race or religion? How could union between different species of animals be a base crime? Animals have no such moral capacity to commit a base crime! If the union of human with human is not a base crime, and if the union of animal with animal is not a base crime, then what is a base crime? The Bible is very clear that sexual relations between humans and animals is a vile, base crime. It is condemned in the Bible as an abomination (Leviticus 18:23, 20:16) worthy of the death penalty. The fact that Mrs. White describes amalgamation as a base crime is irrefutable evidence she was describing bestiality, not intermarriage between humans with racial or religious differences. Genetic amalgamation?A recent defense of Mrs. White's statement has arisen with the advent of genetic engineering. Some have suggested the ancients performed genetic manipulations in the laboratory. This sounds plausible to those who do not understand the difficulties of genetic engineering. Genetic engineering is a very complex process that science is only now beginning to grasp. It requires the use of super-computers and highly advanced technology. There is no evidence that the people before the flood had this technology--although it is not impossible. But Mrs. White says this amalgamation also happened after the flood! There is absolutely no evidence that the advanced technology needed to accomplish this ever existed in any society after the flood. Is Amalgamation the greatest reason for the flood?If Ellen White is correct, that the "one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race" was amalgamation, why was that sin never mentioned in Genesis? Moses mentions the sins of corruption and violence (Gen. 6:11-13), but never amalgamation. One would think that if amalgamation was the "one sin above another" that caused the flood, Moses would have at least mentioned it! How could such a grievous sin pass by Moses without mention? Why were these "inspired" statements removed when the book was republished as Patriarchs and Prophets?If the amalgamation statements were true, why not leave them in the book? Why remove them? If this sin caused the flood, don't you think people should be warned about it so that they don't repeat it? If the " bushmen of Africa" are the result of union between man and animals, don't people have a right to know about it? Shouldn't we be telling our scientists so that they can begin studying the bushmen? What precedence is there to deleting the writings of a prophet? None of the Biblical prophets had to go back and alter their writings to remove statements. Why should Mrs. White? We are not the first to ask these questions. People have been asking those questions for over 150 years. The removal of parts of her writings created such a controversy that the White Estate decided it was important for them to provide an explanation for the ommissions. Her son W.C. White writes: - Regarding the two paragraphs which are to be found in Spiritual Gifts and also in The Spirit of Prophecy regarding amalgamation and the reason why they were left out of the later books, and the question as to who took the responsibility of leaving them out, I can speak with perfect clearness and assurance. They were left out by Ellen G. White. No one connected with her work had any authority over such a question, and I never heard of anyone offering to her counsel regarding this matter.
In all questions of this kind, you may set it down as a certainty that sister White was responsible for leaving out or adding to matters of this sort in the later editions of our books.
Sister White not only had good judgment based upon a clear and comprehensive understanding of conditions and of the natural consequences of publishing what she wrote, but she had many times direct instruction from the angel of the Lord regarding what should be omitted and what should be added in new editions. (W.C. White, Selected Messages, Vol. 3, p. 452)
There you have it straight from the prophet's son: - Did Mrs. White remove the statements because they created a controversy?
Did she remove them because they were wrong? Did she remove them because the brethren faced a predicament trying to explain them to new converts? Did she remove them because they made her appear uneducated?
No, it appears she removed them because an angel instructed her to do so. That leads us to our final question: Why didn't the angel instruct her to omit the lines before they were published? © 1998 Into All the World Wide WebFor more information and documentation on the SDA church visit these webs. www.exadventist.comwww.Bible.ca/sabbath.htm www.truthorfables.com/ www.ratzlaf.com http:// www.servant@ellenwhite.org members.tripod.com/~Help_for_SDAs/index.html
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